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From Patrick Mullarky: I ran across your Bud & Travis Web Page. Talk about bringing back the memories!!

They were one of my absolute favorites in the early 60's. I wore out several of their first albums.  They had a totally unique sound....supurb guitar work, and haunting harmonies . . . particularly their "latin" songs.  I'd very much like to have their music available to me again!

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From the Atkins Family: Great home page--this is the kind of thing that makes the Internet
irreplaceable. We've done our part to "Help get Bud & Travis on CD;" we're looking forward especially to getting the Bud & Travis Latin Album (I bought a "cut-out" copy in Venezuela sometime in the 70s, I think--could it have been that early?). Keep up the good work!

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From Don Elder:   I live in the Washington, DC area and met Travis and Bud here back in 1960.  I was a 15-year old hs sophomore and a would-be picker. Spent time with them on at least a half dozen occasions - picked up some good licks from Travis.  Knew his first wife, Dian James, and met a couple of subsequent girlfriends. They invited me to every DC performance they gave until the final breakout.  I was even in the audience when they recorded B&T at the Cellar Door.

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From Art Podell: I was a co-writer with Rod M on the song "So long, Stay Well"..(a story in itself...I wrote the music). Keep up the work.  I listen to the albums to this day.

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From John Galanos: B&T had a great musical impact on me in the early sixties (yes I'm that old!). As a university student between 63 and 67 I used to earn a paltry income singing at coffee houses and small night clubs on the West Coast in Australia (over 10,000 miles from L.A!!).  B&T songs and style featured prominently. Nowadays I sing and play only for personal enjoyment and my kids and grandchildren.

Something I do recall from somewhere between 61 and 64 or so was seeing B&T perform Malaguena Salerosa on one of the then variety shows on TV (man, that brought on the goose bumps!). It may have been either the Andy Williams Show or the Danny Kaye Show.

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From Larry Yates: I visited the Bud and Travis home page and would like to thank you for the time you've put into it. They were one of my favorite groups way back when, and I frequently listen to their albums today.

I still remember buying my first Bud and Travis album (the two-record concert) in the very early sixties and, in the parlance of a later generation, being "blown away."  I seem to recall seeing them a few times on TV, but that was a long time ago. I still play the albums I purchased back then.

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From Joe Bethancourt: Your page on Bud and Travis is fantastic! Thank you SO much for putting it up. As a long-time folk musician, I have admored their work since high school in the -60s. I was VERY privledged, as a skinny high school kid, to be allowed to sit in with a local mariachi band many times.  One of the things I learned there was the guitar slap technique that B&T used to such great effect.

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From Lawrence D. Kowalski: It was either 1959 or 1960. Bud & Travis were performing in Chicago--probably at the Gate of Horn--and stopped in at the Old Town School of Folk Music, which was in its infancy, to give a free performance at the regular Saturday afternoon hootenanny, which took place for about an hour after classes. I was just a kid fumbling with the basic guitar chords, and these guys ranged so far up and down the frets and strummed with such power and complexity that I could scarcely believe what I was seeing and hearing. Apart from their musicianship, I remember Bud's florid face and the bulging veins on his forehead as he performed. I recall Travis's mild manner but acid wit. The repartee was delightful. They related how they had just spent some time in Mexico, talking to native musicians and learning songs and traditional methods of playing them. After the performance, as visiting performers usually did, they lingered and talked with the students and staff over coffee and cookies.

I appreciate your project. I feared that my two aging albums and few memories would be the last I'd ever know about B&T.

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From Tom J. Moffit: As a young soldier serving at fort ord in California in 1962., I was introduced to classical music and other genres including folk music by a fellow soldier named Pete Sanchez, from Savador, originally.  Pete got me turned on to Beethoven, Brahms, Stravinsky, and other great composers-but he also gave me Bud and Travis album, "In Concert".

And I loved that album.  I knew all the songs on it by heart, and would sing them to myself while doing the usual boring details soldiers do. After I got out, I returned home with my classical albums and "in concert". However, that was back in the 60's, and over the years, my parents passed away and my possessions which I had left at home including my albums, were all destroyed or given away.

I still remember those songs, and when I go to a mall with a music shop, I pause to go thru their computer if they have one, to see if any Bud and Travis albums are still around. Of course, I haven't found a trace until I found this on the net. I hope you do get one of the companies to get them on cd-and from the contents of your mail, I know I'm not the only crazy that knows who Bud and Travis were.

Thanks for making my day!

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From Nicholas Rodriquez: I was absolutely delighted to visit your Bud and Travis web page.  I share your feelings about them.

Charlie Gonzalez, of blessed memory, was my uncle. He is the gentleman to whom their Latin Album was dedicated, and his picture appears inside their In Concert in Santa Monica album (playing the guitarron). He was responsible for many of their Latin arrangements. He loved both of them dearly, as they loved him.

In his later years, he was unable to play anything other than keyboard because of his arthritis.   He went to visit Mexico in 1968, but never went back there to live.  He did have many things from his days with Bud and Travis, but they were passed along to his children with whom our family has lost touch.

Charlie was an extra in many movies. Interestingly, if you rent "Mambo Kings" (a very recent movie), their opening scene is some recycled footage from the 50's with a line of "Congueros." The last Conguero in the line (quite visible) is Charlie -- there is a great close up of him.

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From Roy Kline: A link on the Digital Tradition's discussion page led me to your Bud and Travis site. I just wanted to thank you for keeping the interest alive in this amazing duo. I sincerely hope your efforts towards placing their music on CD pan out. (In my opinion, their version of Maleguena Salerosa is by far the best there is. It's a shame that more people can't hear it these days).

Travis' performances here were always packed. People came to seriously listen and were never dissappointed.

Before the medical mishap took its toll, he gave a lecture-concert for a local history club (Tucson Corral of the Westerners) that will live in my memory forever as one great, shining moment. I wish I had a tape of that night. His love for music and this part of the world had led him to all these wonderful old tunes and touching local variants... ah well.

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From Bill Nourse: Ran across your web page today looking for "Golden Apples" -- I was just
playing one of my old B&T albums for my wife yesterday and got to thinking about that song.  Thanks for your efforts. They were really a great duo and I wondered whatever happened to them.

I remember hearing the "original" Kingston Trio play at Loyola University in New Orleans in 1960 or 1961 when I was a student there. I only discovered B&T later after I had become a (so-called) folksinger myself.

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From Mike Pumphrey: I discoverd Bud in Travis in 1961 when, living in Europe (Father in the
army) and as a fanatical K Trio fan, a friend from Boston handed me the Bud and Travis "In Concert" album and said, "When you hear this you'll forget all about those (K trio) guys." He was right. I returned to the States in 1964.

In 1965-66 I was half of a folk duo called "Mike and Alan."  We worked all over Central Texas, at every little church supper, bank dedication, etc, etc.  Our "act" consisted of essentially note for note copies of Bud and Travis songs, including the patter! We did very well since no one in that area had ever heard of B & T.  We played a lot in Austin at a coffee house called "The Id." One night we were at the Id, not playing, just drinking, when the owner asked us to play a set because his scheduled act had not appeared.  Unfortunately for us, the program that evening was for EXTREMELY traditional bluegrass - blind fiddle players, etc. When we finished our first song,"They Call the Wind Mariah (ala B&T), We received not one single hand-clap except from the owner. We finished the set with La Bamba, which always brought the house down - again not one single clap. Our usual "act" consisted of:  Mariah, Sinner Man, Cloudy Summer Afternoon, I Talk to the Trees (Bud and the Kinsmen), Malaguena Salerosa, Gimme Some, Ay Jalisco, Tomorrow is a Long Time, Merry Minuet, So Long Stay Well, Que Te Quiero, Mary Ann (not a B&T song), and La Bamba.  I performed Bonsoir Dame as a solo sometimes.

Alan and I still get together every thanksgiving and play the old B&T songs - he was Travis, I was Bud - and as I said, it was note for note both vocally and guitar-wise.

I was pleasently surprised to find this page a few minutes ago, I also had never seen anything of Bud and Travis since the 60"s and was sad to hear that Bud died and that Travis is unable to play. I have actually had recurring dreams over the past years - most recently a few months
ago, wherein I met Bud and Travis (in the present) and we sang and played together.  Great Dream - I have never seen them.

Anyway, great job on the page. I also have never understood why these guys weren't  popular. They were clearly better than anyone else in the genre.  Maybe they'll end up on CDs some day thanks to your effort!

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From Mary Fellows: When I was just a child (back in the 50s and 60s), my mother sought to enlighten me by taking me to Community Concert Series productions in Silver City, New Mexico.  One of those concerts was done by Bud and Travis. Needless to say, I was hooked. I grew up in a Spanish-speaking environment, and I loved all of their Spanish music---escpecially "Malaguena Salerosa."

I have taped The Latin Album a zillion times for friends with whom I wish to share their incredible interpretations of this music.  Living now in Santa Fe, NM, I hear many performers attempt some of this literature---without exception, Bud and Travis' interpretations are superior.

There's nothing like their "La Bamba" or "Malaguena Salerosa."

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From Alina Stouffer: Wow! Unbelievable!  I've never met anyone who even has heard of B & T. My parents used to put me to bed tonight with a live album they had.

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From Richard Rogers: Thank you for sharing the B&T page with us.  I was 20 yrs. old in 1960 when Bud and Travis came to the college I was attending.  I had seen Harry Belafonte, The Kingston Trio, Peter, Paul and Mary and several other great folk singers in concerts here in CA., but these two people ranked with the best. At the conclusion of their incredible performance that night, an announcement was made that their "In Concert" album was on sale in the lobby.  There was a stampede of about 500 people but I got mine before the supply ran out. I spent my last few dollars on it. It's playing now as I type this.  It was the best investment I ever made.  Thank you for bringing back some great memories.

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From Vic Amor: Shocked to find a B & T web page, and very happy.  Been an afficionado for years, and even took lessons from Bud when I was at UCLA.

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From Frank Blau: Great page!  I was a close friend of Skip Weshner, who passed away last year. I have many of the tapes from his shows, including much B&T... I'll be moving it from Reel to Reel to Cassette and will keep you posted on anything interesting I find.

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From Wyatt Newman: The first folk album I owned was the first album of Bud and Travis.  As a high school senior that year, the music from that album paid a large part in both my personal and social life. The album was lost by my good friend Barry Hannah (the author) while I was on active duty in the Navy.  Never forgave him for that, and suspect he has it hidden away
somewhere!

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From Michele L. Baine: I was so excited about your page.  I love Bud and Travis.  My mom had their "In Concert" album and I listened to it all the time.  I had a tape it that I took to college but it wore out!

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From S. Collister: Several times, in the early sixties, I played a club in Tucson called 'The First Step' where I heard Barbara Dane, Buffy Saint Marie and, of course, Bud & Travis.  I'm glad to see there are people still interested in their music. For a bit, I played with a guy named Phil Stover: he and I "borrowed" a fair bit of material from Mssrs. Edmondson and Dashiell. I don't know where Phil is now but know he loved these guys.

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From Bill Worsfold: Delighted to stumble onto your Bud and Travis page ! I first came across them in 1963 ( I think ). It was the Josh White Show on tour here in Auckland,New Zealand. Josh was supported by Judy Collins and an unheard of duo, Bud and Travis. Well, I was a big Josh White fan, but I've got to say that B & T just blew him off the stage - in fact by the time the tour arrived here, the openers were closing the show. Just 2 nylon string guitars and such energy ! I was searching the stage for the bongo drummer I could hear - I'd never heard anyone play guitar like that. And the patter was great too, I still remember jokes about the man who thought that Eartha Kitt was a set of gardening tools, that Einstein was one beer ! I was a beginning folk guitarist, and their playing was a major influence on me shifting to nylon strings, and a lasting affection for Spanish American folk music.

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From Bud Booth: Congratulations on an excellent home page. Here's to Bud and Travis!!

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From Tom Meyer: I became a lifeltime believer that the Latin Album is one of the most significant musical works because of one musical note.

I was sitting aboard a ship in San Diego in Dec '65, just returned from 'Nam.  I had a new stereo just purchased in Okinawa and had the speaker outputs connected to a two-channel oscilloscope.  Back then we were fascinated by the separation aspects of stereo. While listening to an FM station one evening, they played B&T's Malaguena. It was the first I'd heard it and it raised the hair on my arms.

At one point in the song, Travis holds a long note.  On the 'scope, this note appeared as an incredibly clear sine wave, something I've never heard before or since in a human voice. It was an incredible experience which I still remember clearly. After 32 years, I still have two very badly worn copies of this album and listen to them at least a few times each year.

Keep up the good work, and thanks for letting me know that there are others who feel as I do about the Latin Album.

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From Rick Fish: Thanks more than I can properly express for the Bud & Travis home page!  I was a fan of their music when it was contemporary, but time and many moves have cost me all of the records I so carefully tried to hoard.  I cannot go into a music store without searching hopefully (and vainly) for a CD of their songs, and I'll certainly join the effort to get their music put on CD. I still play their songs in my head, and will continue my search for old LPs.

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From Barbara Ragels: Hi, I'm a friend of Travis Edmonson and Rose Marie. I hope you're able to get "Bud & Travis" on CDs. As far as I'm concerned, there's no better music. And, I'll be the first to buy. Would be nice if we could order off the net.  Thanks!

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From Gene Kelly: I saw Travis when he was working with Bob Shane of the Kingston Trio after the Trio broke up in mid-1967. Bob and Travis were working a club in Atlanta called "Pat & Barbara's" at the Hotel Georgian Terrace in late 1967 (I think it was).  Travis had a broken leg and a cast up to his rear end.

I never had an opportunity to see B&T in person, but I still listen to their music....often. I would LOVE to have their double live album "In Concert" on CD as well as their first album "Bud and Travis."  Those would be my first choices, with the first album being there because of Rayito De Luna, one of my absolute favorites.

I've done web searches for Bud & Travis, but your site is new to me. Keep up the good work!!

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From John Michael Power: I have searched for years for a Bud & Travis latin album to replace the one I loaned a friend and - well, you know.  I asked a net guru friend to check it out today, and she e-mailed this web site. And I found you.

I was a student at the Art center School of Design in the 50s (automotive design major) and Bud Dashiel was an illustration major. We used to spend our lunch hours sitting on the lawn singing folks songs to Bud's guitar.   He was soooo good.  He had a bit where he slapped the guitar between strokes, in rythym to such things as la Bamba (years before anyone ever heard of it) and Maleguena Salerosa (I always thought it was Sal de rosa - but I defer to your superior knowledge of that).

In 1958 I was design manager at an electronic organ and hi fi manufacturer in Sepulveda, California.  I was in the lab where the engineers were testing a new stereo guts in a cabinet I'd done.  Out of the speaker came this familiar voice singing la Bamba! That's how I that Bud did not go on to join an ad agency as an illustrator.

I  followed thier career for many years - on a local folk station in LA and on the old "Hootenanny" TV show for instance. Then they kinda faded away, as many other good folk groups did after the Beatles etc.. One day, in 1966, while I was running for State Senator in a coastal district that included Westwood, I rang the bell of an apartment on my list of registered voters (Republicans - this was a primary race). Who should open the door but Bud
Dashiell!  We chatted a while, and he said he was teaching guitar in Westwood; UCLA students I guess.  That was the last I ever heard of him.

I of course was saddened to learn that Bud had died. I would sure have liked to have talked to him one more time.

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From Craig Hodgkins: I enjoyed finding your B&T site recently. After clicking around the whole site, I feel good about two things. First, I have all of B&T's recordings, both group & solo, so I can stop looking for others. Second, it shouldn't be long now before we can finally enjoy some CD quality B&T music!

Since I was never able to see "these two exceptional performers" live (having been born mid-folk era), it was enjoyable to read the comments of those who had.

It is interesting that you mentioned Linda Rondstadt's Canciones de mi Padre album in your discussion of "The Music of..." In a Los Angeles Times "Calendar" section interview conducted around the time the of that recording's release, she credited B&T as her initial musical influence while growing up in southern Arizona.

Anyway, "Bravo" to your site! Here's hoping that Bear Family of Collector's Choice puts out a nice re-issue in the near future.

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From Don Gold: When I first mentioned "Raspberries, Strawberries" to a friend, he suggested I head for the Internet and assured me I'd get an answer. I doubted it. But when I headed for B&Tland and found so much to enjoy, I was amazed and very pleased. Good for you for keeping the flame alive.

Again, my thanks.

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From Annie Nelson: Hi!! You have no idea how excited I was to find your page about Bud and Travis.  Here I thought that my family was a little cult all alone in the world, sharing and wearing out an old Bud and Travis album that my mom had from years ago!!!  My sisters and I grew up listening and singing along to the classics, like "Bonsoir, Dame" and "Raspberries, Strawberries." I think those songs are why all 4 of us took French in high school and college!! The banter on that live album still cracks me up, even though I have heard the same jokes hundreds of times - " Have you ever been therapped grouply?  It's wonderful!!!"

When I found the page I e-mailed all of my sisters, cousins, and aunts.  What a relief to know that we are not the only ones who think that Bud and Travis are about the best thing to happen to music ever!! I'll keep checking the page out for new stuff, and know that the entire Nelson Clan from New York is doing their part to get Bud and Travis on CD!!

Thanks!!!

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From "TR": Thanks for putting up such a lot of material on Bud and Travis. I was/am a big fan but had not thought about them for several years, then in looking around had a tough time finding anything about them and discovered that none of their stuff is on CD.  So, I got a couple of their albums from my folks.  anyway, i plan to put my votes in for getting their work onto CD and congratulate you on your good taste! :-)

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From Larry L. King: 1. When I recently obtained a CD of David Whitfield through "Collectors' Choice Music" I told my wife I was in no hurry, but I could now die happy listening to him.  He was my favorite singer (great tenor) of the early-mid fifties, but my albums by him had become unplayable (worn out) and I haven't been able to find good replacements. What's that got to do with Bud & Travis?

2. As I remarked the above to my wife, I then added to my statement.  I told her I also needed Bud & Travis albums replaced.  Not only had I played them many times, but my two daughters also liked and played them as they grew up.

3. Last night I searched for Bud and Travis wondering if I could find a place to buy their albums on CD.  Was I ever surprised and overwhelmed to find such an extensive Web page about them!  Love it.

4. The sad thing is that their music is not being made for re-distribution. I know millions of people will fall in love with them, just as my family did, if they just hear their albums. In that vein, I sent e-mails to Collectors' Choice and Bear Family asking for Bud & Travis to CDs to be made and distributed.  I also wrote a longer note to Capital/Epic records about the sadness I feel for all the people who would love Bud & Travis if only their albums were re-released on CD.  Don't know if it will help, but we can keep trying.

5. My personal experience of B&T: I met my wife to be the Fall of 1959.  I was a raw freshman at the U of Arizona and she was a senior in the high school where I graduated.   Our first date? I asked her to the University's Fall ROTC Military Ball held at the Officers' Club at Davis Monthan Air Force Base in Tucson.  Bud & Travis were the live entertainment. It was a tucks (formal) affair, which I normally hated, but this time was special.  It felt so all evening. The evening turned into one of those love at first sight experiences.  From that moment on, neither my wife nor I has ever considered anything but us being together forever.  Additionally, Bud & Travis became a lifetime love affair (with their music). I had to get their albums as any came out!

6. I wish everyone could have such a great love and life as my wife and I have. Since that's impossible, my next wish is for everyone to love and experience the greatness of Bud & Travis entertainment. Even though I personnaly have no means to make it happen, except by expressing my desires, perhaps our combined stories and pleas will reach ears of those who do.  Then my wish will have a chance!

7. Thanks for the B&T information.  Looking forward to anything new....

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From Marc Buehre: Your Bud & Travis homepage is really great! I was rather amazed that I found it.

You certainly don't hear much about them thru "The Mainstream Media" do you? I found out about Bud & Travis while growing up in the sixties---altho I was more into The Beatles---(still am...) I was just a 10 year old kid listening to all kinds of music growing up, as you can imagine.

I remember my brothers constantly playing Bud & Travis in their cars on the 8 track tape players--!! Now, I've gone back & gotten into the music of B & T and they are amazing.Like everyone else who has written to you, I am waiting patiently for their catalogue to be put onto Compact Disc.....Hurry Up! Somebody Please!

How can such a Great Duo be overlooked?  Keep this website going!

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From Jim Roche: I first became interested in Bud & Travis back in the '60's and continued my love of their music into the early 70's when I became one of those many singer/songwriters on the then-college coffee house circuit. I first played with a friend from University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire named Mike Jerling. Mike has gone on in the music biz and has several excellent CD's. I dropped out and took up parenting with an occasional gig on the side.

In my career there were never enough home grown songs to fill up a two-set show and we turned to performers who gave us the inspiration and love of the music.Ê One of those groups was Bud & Travis.

My favorite album is, of course, Bud & Travis In Concert. And my favorite song - "Malaguena Salerosa."  It is one of my all time favorites and, as you say, their music stands the test of time.

Anyway, I will stop my rambling and just say thank you, thank you, thank you. I will certainly contact the record companies listed on your site to convince them that Bud & Travis should continue to be part of our folk heritage and culture. Thanks again.

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From Billie Cox: I was very pleased to see your website on Bud and Travis.  Thier In Concert album has been dear to my heart for many years  I had hoped it was out on CD.

More power to you!

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From Judy Drake: Hi,  I knew you were out there!  Thank you for bringing Bud and Travis to the forefront. I have a few of their old albums, one was my mother's when I was about thirteen years old. In 1960 they came to Phoenix a couple of times to perform. We saw them each time. It was electric! On the second time we went to see them, my mother got a note to them inviting them to a bar-b-que at our house. Travis had a prior engagement because he was originally from this part of the country, but Bud and his fiance, Mary, came.  We all had such a good time. Bud signed one of our albums something like "As long as there are Bentley's and people like them, we will keep making albums." Of course, not long after the music stopped. I sure hope we are successful in getting there albums on CD. I would buy them all.

Forgot to mention, we named our youngest son Travis!

Thanks for making my day!

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From Berkeley: Thanks for the site on B&T!!!

When the K Trio performed in Biloxi last December, Bob Shane left the stage and the other two performed "Raspberries, Strawberries" in the B&T arrangement.  They still keep in touch with Travis from what I hear.

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From Jim Franz: I was trying to get more information on Bud and Travis and found your site by searching.  Very well organized, one of the better sites for a musical group.

My introduction to B&T was in 1963 while I was a student at University of Arkansas.  I had to order the "Spotlight on Bud & Travis" LP from the local record store.  Never found any other.

From Guy K. Haas:   Thank you, thank you, thank you for the B&T pages!

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From George Grove: I am George Grove, a member of THE KINGSTON TRIO.  I have been in Travis' home in Phoenix, where my partner Bob Shane lives, and have "swapped lies" with him. We have also had him on our stage several times whenever we perform in the area and he has been able to get there.

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